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Wednesday, June 10, 2026

C3Ai is a completely unloved stock, but, Tom Seibel is back! Turnaround story or, Value Trap!

 


C3.ai (NYSE: AI) – Business / Investment Report

Potential Turnaround Story or Value Trap?

Focus: The “Tom Siebel Effect”

Date: June 2026


1. Executive Summary

C3.ai represents one of the more controversial “fallen angel” AI stocks in the market today.

Once viewed as a premier enterprise AI platform and briefly trading above $170 after its IPO enthusiasm, the stock has collapsed due to execution failures, slowing growth, leadership instability, and investor skepticism. However, the return of founder Tom Siebel as CEO in May 2026 has materially changed the investment narrative. The question is no longer whether C3.ai is broken — it clearly was — but whether this is now a legitimate founder-led turnaround opportunity.

Investment conclusion:
C3.ai is not yet a confirmed turnaround, but it is now a 

credible asymmetric turnaround candidate.

For a high-risk retail investor seeking AI exposure beyond obvious mega-caps, C3.ai may represent a classic “maximum pessimism” entry point, provided investors accept elevated volatility and execution risk.


2. The “Tom Siebel Effect” — Why This Matters

The central turnaround thesis revolves around one man:

Thomas Siebel

Siebel returned as CEO in May 2026 after stepping back due to serious health issues that materially disrupted sales execution and strategic oversight. Management itself acknowledged that performance deterioration accelerated while Siebel was less involved in day-to-day operations.

This matters because C3.ai is not a commodity SaaS company.

It is an enterprise AI sales organization, where:

  • relationships matter,
  • long sales cycles dominate,
  • government and Fortune 500 trust is essential,
  • executive selling often determines success.

Historically, Siebel has been one of Silicon Valley’s strongest enterprise sales operators, having previously built and sold Siebel Systems to Oracle for approximately $5.8 billion.

Why founder returns sometimes work

Turnaround history shows founder returns can be highly effective when:

✅ the founder remains deeply connected to customers
✅ execution problems (not product failure) caused deterioration
✅ balance sheet strength buys time
✅ organizational bloat gets reset

C3.ai arguably checks all four boxes.

The risk, however, is whether the business deterioration has gone too far.


3. Financials — Broken Business or Temporary Breakdown?

This is where the story becomes complicated.

Fiscal 2026 was ugly.

Quarterly revenue fell sharply to roughly $51.6 million, and bookings disappointed investors. Revenue contraction raised serious concerns about whether C3.ai had simply lost relevance in enterprise AI.

However, several important positives remain:

Strengths

1. Strong cash position

C3.ai still holds approximately $250M+ in annual revenue and substantial liquidity with minimal debt, meaning bankruptcy or forced dilution risk appears limited near term. This gives management time to execute a turnaround.

2. Aggressive restructuring already underway

Management implemented major workforce reductions and restructuring expected to deliver approximately $135 million in annualized cost savings.

This matters because many successful software turnarounds first go through a painful “reset” phase before operating leverage improves.

3. Guidance stabilizing

Despite weak recent performance, management guidance modestly exceeded Wall Street expectations for fiscal 2027, suggesting deterioration may be slowing.

Weaknesses

The biggest problem remains obvious:

Revenue is still shrinking.

Until growth stabilizes and reaccelerates, investors will remain skeptical.

For C3.ai, the key metric is not profitability yet.

It is:

Can they return to sustainable enterprise revenue growth?


4. Business Environment — Better Than It Looks?

Ironically, the macro environment may now favor C3.ai more than at any point in its history.

The enterprise world has moved from:

“Should we use AI?”

to

“How fast can we operationalize AI?”

This shift potentially benefits enterprise orchestration platforms.

C3.ai focuses on:

  • predictive maintenance
  • supply chain optimization
  • defense readiness
  • manufacturing intelligence
  • energy optimization
  • fraud detection
  • generative AI for enterprise workflows

These are real business applications — not chatbot hype.

The problem: brutal competition!

C3.ai now competes with giants including:

Unlike earlier years, C3.ai is no longer a first mover.

Execution now matters far more.


5. Customers, Contracts & Existing Relationships

This is where the bull case becomes more compelling.

C3.ai already serves meaningful enterprise and government customers.

Notable historical and ongoing customers/relationships include:

  • Baker Hughes
  • United States Air Force
  • United States Department of Defense
  • Shell
  • 3M
  • Bank of America
  • Cargill
  • Koch Industries

Key contract: U.S. Air Force

One of the most important developments was expansion of C3.ai’s U.S. Air Force relationship.

In 2025, the contract ceiling increased to $450 million through 2029, focused on predictive maintenance and readiness analytics across military aircraft fleets. This is highly relevant because defense AI spending is growing rapidly.

For someone with our interest in NATO and defense modernization, this is one of the stronger parts of the thesis.

Baker Hughes relationship

The multi-year renewal with Baker Hughes through 2028 remains strategically important because it embeds C3.ai into energy-sector digital transformation.

This partnership gives C3.ai credibility and a distribution mechanism into:

  • oil & gas
  • chemicals
  • industrial infrastructure

6. Potential Future Customers & Growth Areas

If the turnaround works, growth likely comes from six areas:

1. Defense & NATO modernization

Military predictive maintenance, logistics, battlefield readiness, fleet optimization.

2. Utilities & power grids

AI optimization of increasingly strained power systems.

3. Manufacturing

Industrial AI remains underpenetrated.

4. Energy sector

Oil, gas, LNG, chemicals, carbon optimization.

5. Financial fraud detection

Banks increasingly require AI risk systems.

6. Government agencies

Federal AI modernization remains in early innings.

In other words:

C3.ai participates in many of the same long-duration themes you already like:
AI + defense + industrial modernization + infrastructure.


7. Bull / Base / Bear Scenarios

ScenarioWhat HappensPossible Stock Outcome
Bull Case (30%)Siebel fixes execution, revenue reaccelerates, defense + enterprise wins expand2x–4x+ upside
Base Case (40%)Slow stabilization, moderate growthLimited but respectable upside
Bear Case (30%)Revenue keeps deteriorating, hyperscalers dominateValue trap / further downside

The market is currently pricing something closer to the bear case.

That is why speculative investors are interested.


Final Investment View

C3.ai today resembles a high-risk founder-led turnaround, not a broken meme stock.

The biggest reason to consider it is simple:

Tom Siebel is back, and the stock is deeply unloved.

That combination has historically created opportunities.

But this is not yet investable as a “core AI position” like your existing AI tollbooth thesis (MRVL, CRDO, QCOM, etc.).

Instead, I would view it as:

A speculative optionality bet on a founder-led turnaround

For a Canadian retail investor:

TFSA approach: small position sizing, gradual accumulation, and only if willing to tolerate major volatility.

The single most important metric to watch:

Quarterly revenue stabilization and reacceleration.

If revenue turns upward while sentiment remains negative, that is when C3.ai could rerate quickly.

NOTE: This weeks "Shell" news may be critical for an eventual turnaround story!

this is actually more important than the headline first suggests.

C3.ai announced an expanded multi-year agreement with Shell this week (June 4) to scale AI-powered reliability and predictive maintenance across Shell’s global asset operations. Importantly, this is not a pilot project or “proof of concept.” It is an expansion of an existing long-term relationship that began in 2018, which is exactly the type of evidence turnaround investors want to see.

Here is why I think this matters:

1. This validates that Shell is getting real economic value

Shell is not experimenting here.

C3.ai says the existing deployment already monitors 13,000+ pieces of industrial equipment and has generated “hundreds of millions of dollars” of economic value through reduced downtime and improved reliability. Shell is now expanding the relationship instead of shrinking it.

In enterprise software, especially industrial AI:

Renewals and expansions are often more important than flashy new logos.

If Shell were unhappy, they would not deepen the relationship.

That is a meaningful signal.


2. This is moving beyond “AI monitoring” into Agentic AI

The new agreement reportedly adds:

  • AI-agent root cause analysis
  • diagnostic automation
  • remediation recommendations

In simple terms:

Old system:

“Something is wrong with compressor #14.”

New system:

“Compressor #14 is likely failing because vibration + heat + pressure trends resemble three prior failures. Recommended intervention: X.”

This is a much more valuable product category because it moves from detection → diagnosis → action.

Given our broader thesis around Agentic AI, this part is important.

C3.ai may actually have an underappreciated niche in industrial agentic AI, especially for:

  • energy
  • utilities
  • chemicals
  • defense logistics
  • heavy manufacturing

3. Shell could become a “reference customer” for the energy industry

This may be the most underrated aspect.

Energy companies tend to copy proven deployments.

If Shell demonstrates strong ROI, it increases the probability of:

expanding industrial AI budgets.

C3.ai already has credibility in energy through both Shell and Baker Hughes, which creates an ecosystem effect. The long-running relationship with Baker Hughes was also expanded in 2025 to continue AI deployment in energy and industrial markets.


4. Why this matters to the turnaround thesis

For me, this is incrementally bullish, but not thesis-changing by itself.

What it does prove:

✅ Major customers are staying
✅ At least one flagship customer is expanding spend
✅ The product appears to deliver measurable ROI
✅ C3.ai still has enterprise relevance
✅ Siebel’s “industrial AI” thesis may not be broken

What it does NOT yet prove:

❌ Revenue reacceleration across the company
❌ Broad customer momentum
❌ Sustainable growth recovery

In other words:

The Shell news is evidence that C3.ai may still have a strong product in certain verticals.

The open question remains:

Can Tom Siebel turn isolated successes into company-wide execution again?

My interpretation for an investor

If I were building the turnaround case, I would put this development in the “important confirming evidence” bucket.

Not a reason alone to buy.

But if over the next 2–3 quarters we also see:

  • more defense wins,
  • additional industrial expansions,
  • stabilization in revenue,

then this Shell expansion starts to look like...

 the first sign of a real turnaround rather than random good news.




Thursday, December 26, 2024

As we enter 2025, we compare C3 Ai and Palantir in the fast growing market of Ai Software! (CAGR of 35% through 2030)


 Investment Report on C3.ai and Comparison with Palantir

Introduction C3.ai and Palantir are two key players in the burgeoning AI software market, which is witnessing exponential growth due to increased adoption of AI solutions across industries. This report evaluates C3.ai's current business and future prospects, its customers, partnerships, financials, and growth trajectory. Additionally, it includes a comparative analysis of C3.ai and Palantir on valuation, growth metrics, and positioning in the AI market.

Business Overview

  • C3.ai: C3.ai offers enterprise AI solutions tailored to sectors such as energy, manufacturing, utilities, financial services, and defense. It provides a comprehensive suite of applications that enable predictive analytics, optimization, and operational efficiency. C3.ai recently transitioned to a consumption-based pricing model, aligning costs with customer usage, which has driven market adoption and improved revenue growth.

  • Palantir: Palantir specializes in data integration, big data analytics, and AI-driven insights, primarily serving government agencies and large enterprises. Its flagship platforms, Palantir Gotham and Foundry, are widely recognized for their applications in national security, supply chain optimization, and predictive maintenance.

Financial Performance (2024)

  • C3.ai:

    • Fiscal year revenue grew by 16% to $310.6 million.

    • Q4 FY2024 revenue increased by 20% year-over-year, reaching $86.6 million.

    • Strong federal segment growth, with revenue doubling year-over-year.

  • Palantir:

    • Achieved profitability with net income of $302 million in 2024.

    • Revenue grew by 24% year-over-year to $2.2 billion.

    • Significant expansion in commercial revenue and sustained growth in government contracts.

Key Customers and Partnerships




  • C3.ai Customers:

    • Energy: Shell, ExxonMobil, Baker Hughes.

    • Utilities: Con Edison.

    • Government: U.S. Air Force, U.S. Navy, U.S. Marine Corps, and the Defense Counterintelligence and Security Agency.

  • Palantir Customers:


    • Government: U.S. Department of Defense, NHS (UK).

    • Commercial: BP, Airbus, Ferrari.

  • Strategic Partnerships:

    • C3.ai has a strategic alliance with Microsoft, leveraging Azure to scale AI applications. This partnership could expand its sales reach significantly.

    • Palantir’s partnerships with IBM and AWS bolster its AI and cloud capabilities, enhancing its data integration offerings.

Market Valuation and Metrics

  • C3.ai:

    • Price-to-Sales (P/S) Ratio: 9.4x. 

    • Becoming profitable, focused on scaling and investing in growth.

  • Palantir:

    • Price-to-Earnings (P/E) Ratio: 80x, reflecting premium valuation due to profitability and market leadership.

    • Price-to-Sales (P/S) Ratio: 13.2x.

AI Software Market Expansion 2024-2030



The AI software market is projected to grow at a CAGR of 35% through 2030, driven by:

  • Increased AI adoption across industries such as healthcare, defense, and finance.

  • Rising demand for generative AI and machine learning platforms.

  • Growing investments in AI infrastructure and R&D.

Comparison: Growth Prospects

  • C3.ai:

    • Positioned to benefit from its diverse customer base and generative AI solutions.

    • Adoption of the consumption-based model aligns with market demand for flexibility.

  • Palantir:

    • Well-established in government and defense, expanding into commercial sectors.

    • Focus on AI/ML advancements and leveraging its proprietary platforms for scalable solutions.

Forrester Research predicts Ai Software spending in 2025 of $64 Billion

Conclusion 

While C3.ai is growing its presence in the AI market through innovation and partnerships, it remains unprofitable, which could impact investor sentiment in the short term, however, it's forward earnings valuation under 10% indicates it may be a buying opportunity.

Palantir, with its profitability and established customer base, commands a higher valuation but also faces challenges in maintaining its growth rate and valuation now looks extended.

As the AI software market expands, both companies are poised to capture significant opportunities, though their trajectories differ based on strategic focus and market dynamics.

ED Note:

Currently we have no position in either Palantir and C3Ai, however, they are on our watch list!

update: Jan 6 2024

We purchased some shares in Ai




Saturday, September 7, 2024

As AI and quantum computing boom, several companies could be attractive takeover targets for large tech companies due to their advanced technology, niche expertise, or significant intellectual property portfolios.



Here are 10 potential takeover targets:

AI-Focused Companies

  1. C3.ai – Focuses on enterprise AI applications. Its generative AI capabilities, combined with a well-established customer base, could be appealing for big tech firms looking to bolster their AI offerings.

  2. SambaNova Systems – A leading AI hardware and software platform provider, specializing in advanced AI models and efficient processing. Their AI chips are optimized for AI workloads and could be a valuable asset for companies looking to enhance their AI infrastructure.

  3. Hugging Face – Hugging Face is known for its open-source natural language processing (NLP) models. Its leadership in NLP and machine learning models could attract companies looking to expand in these areas.

  4. Scale AI – Specializes in AI data labeling and providing data for machine learning models. Scale AI's data annotation platform could be crucial for tech companies aiming to improve their AI training processes.

  5. Adept AI – A company building general AI agents that can interact with software tools and automate tasks. Its focus on user-friendly AI solutions could make it attractive for companies aiming to improve AI-driven automation.

Of the above Ai companies mentioned, only C3Ai is publicly traded at this writing 

while 2 through 5 are all currently private companies!

Quantum Computing-Focused Companies

  1. Rigetti Computing – Known for its work in hybrid quantum-classical computing. It has been working on quantum hardware and software integration, making it attractive to tech giants like IBM, Google, or Microsoft aiming to accelerate quantum computing development.

  2. IonQ – A leader in trapped-ion quantum computing, offering a unique hardware approach. Their quantum computers are already being deployed in partnerships with major tech firms, which makes them an attractive acquisition target.

  3. PsiQuantum – Focused on building fault-tolerant quantum computers using photonic technology. This could be highly appealing to a big tech company aiming for breakthroughs in scalable quantum hardware.

  4. D-Wave Systems – Specializes in quantum annealing systems. Although it's been more niche, its longstanding expertise and business use cases could be of interest to tech companies looking for a more commercial quantum solution.

  5. Zapata Computing – Specializing in quantum algorithms and software platforms. Its expertise in hybrid quantum solutions and advanced algorithm development could make it attractive for tech companies that want to integrate quantum technology with AI.

Except for PsiQuantum (Which is privately held) these companies are all traded publicly on the Nasdaq Exchange. 

These companies are leaders in their fields and would bring valuable technology, intellectual property, and talent to big tech firms looking to expand in AI and quantum computing.

Editor note:  We own shares in 5 of the companies listed now!

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